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TORTURE THREAD FUNTIMES.
Hey, guys! So, you may have noticed the threads with Kebechet have slowed significantly; this is my fault. Rather than making you guys wait forever on me, I figured it'd just be better to hash out where the thread would go for character development purposes.
I'm sorry everything didn't get threaded out like I wanted to; a lot of RL issues ended up cropping up in the time I'd slotted to work on Kebechet's threads with you guys. Apologies, and thank you for your understanding.
I'm sorry everything didn't get threaded out like I wanted to; a lot of RL issues ended up cropping up in the time I'd slotted to work on Kebechet's threads with you guys. Apologies, and thank you for your understanding.
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We were talking about Dany and her father, him saying she wasn't a real Targ. Anything else that might've come up?
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As you can see, I was extremely organized and methodical. Anyway, those are my thoughts for the direction of the thread, if you want to play around with those ideas or anything like that!
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But seriously, I slept through most of February so I feel you. No worries! I hope Kebechet regrets entrusting Kylo with anything.
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AWESOME! That's some sweet stuff to work with, danke :)
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Anyway, I did take notes to keep track of what was going on in each character's thread as it evolved, so here's what I had for Rey if you wanted to use any of it (up to you!)
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man all of this is great too, I think especially luke burning the books would get to her because she had to have taken them BECAUSE she knew he'd destroy them, but actually seeing him do it would definitely shake her up
thanks for this, it's perfect!
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Does he receive any instruction or the like for playing spy?
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(Also fyi 'his guilt organ' sounds like a christian fundamentalist term for a dick.)
And yes! I was thinking at the end, depending on what Kylo did in the 'simulation' of the falcon crashing, Kebechet would spin it into the whole 'you're not ready yet, but you have potential' speech, and warn him to keep the scarab close and await further instructions. And if he came across any real important informaton, he could whisper it to the scarab when no one's watching, keep the scarab on him at all times, etc etc (and obviously pass that on to the ginger menace). He might also imply that they're very interested in Hux as well, and want to see who's more valuable, so, uh.
If you and Hux wanted to comment here with the info they'd be leaking as they leaked it, we'll reply with what the scarab does in return and etc.
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There'd probably be a few gross man tears before Kylo accepts piloting the Falcon instead of dying, while also considering dying might be the better idea, but knowing it's all an illusion and life is hard when you're a murderer that regrets your murder, man. He would also like to add that Hux works for him (he doesn't) and he's a snake (true) and obviously Kylo is more trustworthy (debatable).
And on the scarabs, awesome! Thanks so much, this is fab B)
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ANYWHO Kebechet will do the anime villain thing and steeple their fingers while saying that's veeeery iiiinterestingggg.
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(Admittedly I was flushing most of my time this month down the video game toilet so I didn't capitalize on my time as best as I could either... I acknowledge this.)
Regardless, I'd love to discuss it here! And I don't know if it's viable for you, considering your position handling NPCs and your own character, but if you're willing to backtag I would be perfectly okay with that (once I have an idea of where I'm at moving forward, for new tags). I just really enjoy the thread so far. BUT if you're wanting to pare down on stuff for the future, I 150% understand also. (:
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And I wouldn't mind continuing if that's your deal! I just can't guarantee how long it'll take me, because bullshit keeps cropping up and more mod concerns appear as time goes on, etc, etc, thus this post.
My notes for Ashitaka's thread were a bit more vague bc it was in the early stages, so we might have more to hash out.
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THAT ASIDE please tell me what else was planned for this chucklefuck ;) i'm definitely cool with handwaving it since i know that was a particularly ugly thread in the middle of lots of overwhelming ugliness!!
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Anyway, I feel like Noct and Keb's threads were reaching their conclusion, so I had stopped taking notes because I suck. Keb was just going to answer more questions about the Regency and how great their life insurance plans are. Not that anyone will ever die, that would be terrible!
I definitely wanted Kebechet to play up the sweeter angle for the whole good cop / bad cop thing, comfort him more and say he can be a worthy king soon (if asked directly, be ambiguous about Noctis' worth, 'well isn't that up to you?'), and generally be conniving. In the end, though, Kebechet isn't trained in diplomacy and lets his biases show; they definitely have a preference for royalty and the idea that someone is inherently suited biologically for 'roles'.
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Here are my incredibly eloquent notes:
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But yeah, I will backtag into infinity, and I am not at all offended by late tags. If you just want to add onto it whenever you have time, I'll gladly continue it! But it's fine if we just wanna hash stuff out here.
And mmHmmmHMMMMMMM, nice nice nice. Let's see...
Ashitaka is definitely somewhat vulnerable to manipulation by the Regency. In the end he prefers the idea of a preservable peace over endless war (which is his impression of the world, at this point), but he can't really get over the stumbling block of the people themselves not choosing this option. So he will definitely succeed in messing with him, as he's already a bit conflicted w/ the Regency and COST (largely because he doesn't really remember how he was convinced to join in the first place due to memory problems).
He would follow the boar if Kebechet suggested it. He's kind of along on this ride.
Convincing him to fight it again would be a little tenuous, mostly because he figures he can affect nothing in that world and also figures it would change nothing. But if Kebechet manipulates him otherwise, it's possible. Using the mark against him would be really great, though, so I would love that!
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BUT ONTO THE FUN SHIT
Ultimately Kebechet's goal isn't really to 100% turn anyone so much as sew doubts that can be used later to manipulate, so this is fine as far as they're concerned. They'll probably be very kind and polite, and any cruelty will be excused with the whole 'you brought this on yourself' angle.
For example, they'll follow Naga and encourage Ashitaka to fight it, not saying 'revenge' so much as 'right the wrongs it did to you and yours', etc. If Ashitaka refuses, Kebechet will probably say something like how Ashitaka's clearly been living in comfort for so long he's forgotten the suffering he came from, and Ashitaka will feel his curse begin to manifest itself again, rather painfully. Kebechet will do the whole, "do you understand, now? Show me you are not the spoiled prince my superiors believe you to be. Prove yourself."
In the end, what theyre really doing is testing Ashitaka's suseptability to suggestion and manipulation. They want sleeper agents.
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If this is the case, Kebechet will be very successful with Ashitaka. Just with how COST's and the Regency's struggle is framed, he has difficulty with the conflict in general. He doesn't really agree with either's ends or means in entirety, so he's definitely susceptible to this sort of framework for manipulation.
Once first encouraged, Ashitaka will probably refuse, still thinking that with the limitations of this vision, there isn't much point to such a thing - he views what's done as done, and has even thought of the chance of avoiding his curse (and already decided it wouldn't be a good idea to pursue). Kebechet's arguments will be... interesting. The history of his village is another thing he doesn't see possible to right or amend, so he would most likely be unable to make a choice here (simply surprised by it). Activating the curse's influence over him would be a really good way to force his hand, yeah! He'd probably fight it... but I would also love to see him fighting a bit of a losing battle against that, since he's been worn down quite a bit mentally (with the mission and the capture) by this point... so it definitely could be a situation where eventually succumbed to the impulses of the demon mark, yeah.
(Doubly confusing because Ashitaka doesn't even see himself as Emishi anymore, let alone a prince, so it's a fun mishmash of upset feelings regarding identity, wahoo.)
Also, one more thing that's come up when I've been thinking about this: does Kebechet use his name at all? He assumes from their knowledge of where he's from and what's happened to him that they know his identity. I only ask this for confirmation bc, like... he knows what happened to Xici can happen if they have as little as your identity, so it's just something I wanted to have in mind for the future! Thanks!!
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Yes... perfect... wonderful... thank you...